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he said he and his son calculated how much they pay in taxes, federal income tax, payroll tax, state sales tax, state property tax, gasoline tax, it added up to well over 50% of what they earned and your plan is to take the tax rate on successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. the national federation of independent businesses says that will cost 700,000 jobs. i don't want to cost jobs. my priority is jobs. and so what i do, i bring down the tax rates, lower deductions and exemptions, the same idea by bowles-simpson, get the rate down to create more jobs. nothing better to create a balanced budget than having more people working, earning more money, paying more taxes, that's the most effective and efficient way to get the budget balanced. >> jim, you may want to move on to another topic. i would say this to the american people. if you believe we can cut taxes by $5 trillion and add $2 trillion of additional spending to the military that is not asking for, $7 trillion, to give you a sense, over ten years, that's more than our entire defense budget, and you think that by closing loop
he said he and his son calculated how much they pay in taxes, federal income tax, payroll tax, state sales tax, state property tax, gasoline tax, it added up to well over 50% of what they earned and your plan is to take the tax rate on successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. the national federation of independent businesses says that will cost 700,000 jobs. i don't want to cost jobs. my priority is jobs. and so what i do, i bring down the tax rates, lower deductions and exemptions, the...
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let's talk about the tax cuts. he signalled over the last couple of days, details about how they would pay for it they didn't put out details, they backed away from it. they are not being honest with the american people. you know what's worse? he got testy about it, being on defense and i think that came across to the american people. >> the president seemed to get testy at one point when he was interrupted by jim lehrer. will the president do more debate prep before the next debate, prepare differently. do you think he didn't take this seriously enough? >> we feel good about the president's performance here tonight. he wasn't speaking to the people in the room, the pundit class, but people at home. i think what people heard tonight was a plan forward, a detailed plan on how we'll rebuild the economy and strengthen the middle class. another guy that got testy, interrupted the moderator. i wondered if we needed a moderator since we had mitt romney. and someone doubling down on the very same policies that crashed the
let's talk about the tax cuts. he signalled over the last couple of days, details about how they would pay for it they didn't put out details, they backed away from it. they are not being honest with the american people. you know what's worse? he got testy about it, being on defense and i think that came across to the american people. >> the president seemed to get testy at one point when he was interrupted by jim lehrer. will the president do more debate prep before the next debate,...
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plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut on top of the extension of the bush tax cuts. that's another trillion dollars and $2 trillion in additional military spending that the military hasn't asked for. >> i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. that's not my plan. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut to add to the deficit. >> now, today, the president is saying, hang on. that's not mitt romney. he says romney's changing the tune on the crucial issue of taxes to make himself sound more centrist. ali velshi is here to make sense of what we heard last night. >> right. >> the first question on the tax cut proposal. the president is saying he's flip flopping. is he proposing $5 trillion in tax cuts? >> so this is a tricky one. what mitt romney is saying is he wants to reduce taxes across the board in every category. wherever you are coming down 20%. if you don't figure out where you're going to make up the taxes from, if you take 20% less from everybody it's over 10 years a $4.9 trillion loss and overstating it a little bit but there's a study that's been done and
plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut on top of the extension of the bush tax cuts. that's another trillion dollars and $2 trillion in additional military spending that the military hasn't asked for. >> i'm not in favor of a $5 trillion tax cut. that's not my plan. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut to add to the deficit. >> now, today, the president is saying, hang on. that's not mitt romney. he says romney's changing the tune on the crucial issue of taxes to make himself...
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to save and invest tax free. this is one of the big differences between these two candidates. mitt romney has a pro growth tax reform plan and create jobs and get the economy moving. you heard the president has no plans whatsoever. >> but the democrats keep pointing out you're being very vague and you're not being very specific in the so-called offsets. how do you pay for $5 trillion in tax cuts without raising the deficit? >> well, you know what, wolf, i'm reminded of what happened in 1986, the last time the congress and the president reagan at the time undertook major tax reform. the president didn't come forward with a plan, take it or leave it plan that he presented to the congress. instead, he articulated some broad principles that would guide him in his negotiations with congressional leaders and those led to major tax reform. that created a major economic expansion in this country. those are the same principles that governor romney would follow, if he's elected as president. >> so, he's not going to spell
to save and invest tax free. this is one of the big differences between these two candidates. mitt romney has a pro growth tax reform plan and create jobs and get the economy moving. you heard the president has no plans whatsoever. >> but the democrats keep pointing out you're being very vague and you're not being very specific in the so-called offsets. how do you pay for $5 trillion in tax cuts without raising the deficit? >> well, you know what, wolf, i'm reminded of what happened...
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taxes. >> that's correct. it's just the way he formlated it. >> thanks very much. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] almost nothing can dampen a baby's mood, when he wakes up dry in pampers. unlike other diapers, pampers has 3 absorbent layers, for up to 12 hours of protection overnight, and more beautiful mornings. ♪ [ female announcer ] pampers. peaceful nights. playful days. not quite knowing what the next phase was going to be, you know, because you been, you know, this is what you had been doing. you know, working, working, working, working, working, working. and now you're talking about, well you know, i won't be, and i get the chance to spend more time with my wife and my kids. it's my world. that's my world. ♪ that's my world. when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop
taxes. >> that's correct. it's just the way he formlated it. >> thanks very much. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] almost nothing can dampen a baby's mood, when he wakes up dry in pampers. unlike other diapers, pampers has 3 absorbent layers, for up to 12 hours of protection overnight, and more beautiful mornings. ♪ [ female announcer ] pampers. peaceful nights. playful days. not quite knowing what the next phase was going to be, you know, because you been, you know, this...
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tax rates by 20%. this could add up to $5 trillion, a big cut. but it doesn't take into account eliminating deductions and closing loopholes it would reduce tax cuts on the wealthy, but the problem is romney hasn't been specific about which reductions and how many? false on the claim. eliminating any tax cut would make it less than 5 trillion, even if it's which deductions and which loopholes. you mitt romney likes to talk about the middle class squeeze. wages down and all kinds of prices are up. >> do you realize over the last four years, every year you have seen the median income in america come down. income is down some 4,300 a family. the middle class squeeze has been unbearable. gasoline prices way up. food prices up, electricity prices up. health insurance costs up. >> the facts in this, easy to fin. median income down over the last four years, but only about 2,500 since president obama took office and prices for all those items are up, though, food and electricity barely, so the verdict is true,
tax rates by 20%. this could add up to $5 trillion, a big cut. but it doesn't take into account eliminating deductions and closing loopholes it would reduce tax cuts on the wealthy, but the problem is romney hasn't been specific about which reductions and how many? false on the claim. eliminating any tax cut would make it less than 5 trillion, even if it's which deductions and which loopholes. you mitt romney likes to talk about the middle class squeeze. wages down and all kinds of prices are...
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listen to this. >> governor romney and i both agree our cooperate tax rate is too high. we both agree we've got to boost american energy production and it appears we've got some agreement that a marketplace to work has to have some regulation. i suspect that on social security we've got a somewhat similar position. >> you understand what he was trying do there? >> yeah, i do. >> i got a bit confused. >> i think you're right, wolf. and i think that is a disastrous approach. the truth of the matter is mitt romney right now is the head of a right-wing extremist party called the republican party. it wasn't always the case. that's what they are today. if the president cannot differentiate himself clearly from right-wing extremism, we've got a lot of problems as a nation and he's got problems as a candidate running for re-election. in terms of social security, it is absurd for the president to say that he and romney are coming down in the same way. social security today has a $2.7 trillion surplus. social security hasn't contributed one nickel to the deficit, can pay out benef
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but in this case on the tax plan, not so much obama care and other things, it did. was it played in the clips? >> it was. >> very little. >> there was a misperception on the argument over taxes. if you watched mitt romney over the campaign, he has argue head will cut everyone's tack bus not change the shiefr the burden that the wealthy will pay. now, that may turn out to be true or not if he's ever elect and goes to congress with a plan. but he did not change his plan the night of the debate. what he tried to do finally in then tire campaign is rebut the very effective obama argument that he's cutting taxes for the wealthy and sticking the middle class with a tab. it's not something the republicans believe is true. >> the key word was share, the share was taxes that the wealthy will pay. and so i was surprised the president didn't go after that too. >> is it simply that -- i've seen 20 times that. is it the other stuff, the stuff we're talking about here, the stuff that's considered too boring? >> yes, absolutely. yes. that sflies that depresses me. >> would that jo
but in this case on the tax plan, not so much obama care and other things, it did. was it played in the clips? >> it was. >> very little. >> there was a misperception on the argument over taxes. if you watched mitt romney over the campaign, he has argue head will cut everyone's tack bus not change the shiefr the burden that the wealthy will pay. now, that may turn out to be true or not if he's ever elect and goes to congress with a plan. but he did not change his plan the...
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because he wants to keep open the tax loopholes that encourage jobs overseas. i want to make sure that we're providing tax breaks from companies right here in america. i want to help big factories and small businesses double their exports. i want more goods stamped with made in america. i want to create 1 million new manufacturing jobs in the next four years. >> obama care is point number one. it is the example number one where he wants to put bureaucrats between you and your doctor, he believes that the government should tell you what kind of insurance you have to have. he believes that government should have a board of people that tell you what kind of care you can receive. my view is we fight for freedom in this country, i do not want an intrusive massive larger debt spending government that crushes the american dream. >> they like to call it obama care, well, let me tell you, i do care. i care about all the young people who are able to stay on their parents' plans now. i care about the seniors who are seeing lower prescription drug costs. i care about folks
because he wants to keep open the tax loopholes that encourage jobs overseas. i want to make sure that we're providing tax breaks from companies right here in america. i want to help big factories and small businesses double their exports. i want more goods stamped with made in america. i want to create 1 million new manufacturing jobs in the next four years. >> obama care is point number one. it is the example number one where he wants to put bureaucrats between you and your doctor, he...
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tax rate, they're taxed at a lower rate. the businesses in the last 3% of businesses happen to employ half -- half of all people that work in small business. they employ one-quarter of all workers in america, and you want to take their tax rate from 35% to 40%. i talked to a guy with a very small business, he's in the electronics business in st. louis. he has four employees. he said he and his son calculated how much they pay in taxes, federal income tax, federal payroll tax, state sales tax, state property tax, gasoline tax, it added up to well over 50% of what they earned. and your plan is to take the tax rate on successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. the national federation of independent businesses says that will cost 700,000 jobs. i don't want to cost jobs. my priority is jobs. and so what i do, i bring down the tax rates, lower deductions and exemptions, the same idea by behind bowles-simpson, by the way, get the rates down, lower exemptions and create jobs. there's nothing better to get us to a balanced budget t
tax rate, they're taxed at a lower rate. the businesses in the last 3% of businesses happen to employ half -- half of all people that work in small business. they employ one-quarter of all workers in america, and you want to take their tax rate from 35% to 40%. i talked to a guy with a very small business, he's in the electronics business in st. louis. he has four employees. he said he and his son calculated how much they pay in taxes, federal income tax, federal payroll tax, state sales tax,...
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the challenger, it was the budget and taxes. president obama spent the third most time talking about budget and taxes, about a minute less than governor romney. romney's number three issue was health care. big differences when you drill down. take a look at energy, president obama spent 19 secti9 seconds on energy. governor romney, 1:43 seconds. when asked a question about education, he pivoted to energy. 2:17. president obama devoted 4:15, almost twice as much. watching this very closely. anderson, back to you. >> john king locklooking closer at the flash poll numbers. you have numbers on the economy. >> they asked the question, who would better handle the economy? let me scroll down. clear in the poll, the overall verdict to governor romney who won the debate. who better to handle the economy, obama 43, romney 55. the defining question of the election. >> compared to where it was before? >> we have to be careful this is registered voters who watched the debate. in our most recent national poll, they were tied on that question.
the challenger, it was the budget and taxes. president obama spent the third most time talking about budget and taxes, about a minute less than governor romney. romney's number three issue was health care. big differences when you drill down. take a look at energy, president obama spent 19 secti9 seconds on energy. governor romney, 1:43 seconds. when asked a question about education, he pivoted to energy. 2:17. president obama devoted 4:15, almost twice as much. watching this very closely....
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let's stay on taxes. let's just stay on taxes for a moment. what is the difference? >> virtually everything he just said about my tax plan is inaccurate. >> all right. just for the record -- >> worry talking about -- >> just so everybody understands, we are way over our first 15 minutes. >> that's fine, isn't it? >> it's great. no problem. >> the last point i would make -- >> two minutes is up, sir. >> no, i had five seconds before you interrupted me. >> here are the specifics. >> excuse me. >> let's talk the other big. >> no, no, let's not. let's let him respond to this specific on dodd-frank. >> some viewers also wondered why lehrer didn't challenge romney's attack on his own network, pbs. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i love big bird. actually like you, too, but i'm not going to keep on spending money to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> the web went wild for big bird. shame shame. mentions of big bird went up 800,000%. seriously, though. l lehrer with his criticized for not explaining dodd-frank and simpson bowles to the public. obama adviser s
let's stay on taxes. let's just stay on taxes for a moment. what is the difference? >> virtually everything he just said about my tax plan is inaccurate. >> all right. just for the record -- >> worry talking about -- >> just so everybody understands, we are way over our first 15 minutes. >> that's fine, isn't it? >> it's great. no problem. >> the last point i would make -- >> two minutes is up, sir. >> no, i had five seconds before you...
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you're still raising taxes on the middle class. even his own economists that he relies on says you can't cut taxes by $5 trillion out paying for it by cutting deductions for people making $200,000 and less. that's just a fact. you can't do it. even if you close every single deduction for people making over $200,000, or $250,000 for families, you're still a trillion short. so he has to tell us how he will do this without increasing taxes on the middle class. so far the math does not add up. >> vice president biden said they have been buried. and they are jumping all over this, listen here to senator marco rubio. >> those are not my words. those happen to be the words of the distinguished vice president of the united states, mr. joe biden. don't boo, he is the best thing we have going, guys. don't boo. because in a moment of clarity, in a brief moment of clarity, he said what we knew. >> gaffe or no gaffe, and you will tell me it's not, isn't it still a problem for the president? >> no. you know, i heard senator rubio, and i heard th
you're still raising taxes on the middle class. even his own economists that he relies on says you can't cut taxes by $5 trillion out paying for it by cutting deductions for people making $200,000 and less. that's just a fact. you can't do it. even if you close every single deduction for people making over $200,000, or $250,000 for families, you're still a trillion short. so he has to tell us how he will do this without increasing taxes on the middle class. so far the math does not add up....
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tax cuts. you knew this was goingo be a big issue. president obama went on the attack saying mitt romney is essentially pitching a huge tax cut for the rich. >> governor romney's central economic plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut on top of the extension of the bush tax cuts, that's another trillion and $2 trillion in additional military spending that the military hasn't asked for. >> mitt romney does propose across the board 20% tax cuts in the nonpartisan tax center says under that plan, taxes on the wealthiest americans would be reduced by $5 trillion. initially. but romney says he would offset the cuts with reductions and deductions and closing loopholes that will reduce the tax cut for the wealthy. so our verdict here is that president's saying he would cut the taxes by $5 trillion on wealthy is false because any deduction you take out will make it smaller. there is more to this story. on the deficit, mitt romney claims with the tax cuts he'll not add to the deficit. >> my number one pri
tax cuts. you knew this was goingo be a big issue. president obama went on the attack saying mitt romney is essentially pitching a huge tax cut for the rich. >> governor romney's central economic plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut on top of the extension of the bush tax cuts, that's another trillion and $2 trillion in additional military spending that the military hasn't asked for. >> mitt romney does propose across the board 20% tax cuts in the nonpartisan tax center says under...
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vo: why won't romney level with us about his tax plan, which gives the wealthy huge new tax breaks? because according to experts, he'd have to raise taxes on the middle class - or increase the deficit to pay for it. if we can't trust him here... how could we ever trust him here? boring. boring. [ jack ] after lauren broke up with me, i went to the citi private pass page and decided to be...not boring. that's how i met marilyn... giada... really good. yes! [ jack ] ...and alicia. ♪ this girl is on fire [ male announcer ] use any citi card to get the benefits of private pass. more concerts, more events, more experiences. [ jack ] hey, who's boring now? [ male announcer ] get more access with the citi card. [ crowd cheering, mouse clicks ] [ male announcer ] gly nimble, ridiculously agile, tight turning, fun to drive 2013 smart. ♪ >>> welcome back to "starting point." clint eastwood's address raised eyebrows because of this scene when he was talking to an empty chair. the empty chair represented president obama. this week's cover of "the new yorker" picks up on the performance agai
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, tax reforms on individual and corporate level. we need to take a look at things like education. interestingly, going back to the technology, we have a lot of americans out of work, but a lot of jobs in the technology field where we don't have enough skilled workers to fill them. maybe we need to look at education as well. >> read this quote from henry blodget, the business insider. here is what he said here. he said this is about our current system and philosophy. not sustainable. why not? they're creating a country of aful overlords and 300 million serfs, peasants. are you optimistic? will the middle class start rolling, bouncing back again? >> i'd like to say yes, i'm hopeful. but i think it really is going to -- i think this is going to take time and i think it is going to come down a lot to policies and regulations and what our tax structure looks like moving forward. i think it will come down to the political elections as well and what americans see for their future. >> morgan brennan, thank you. i'll go with you on the glass
, tax reforms on individual and corporate level. we need to take a look at things like education. interestingly, going back to the technology, we have a lot of americans out of work, but a lot of jobs in the technology field where we don't have enough skilled workers to fill them. maybe we need to look at education as well. >> read this quote from henry blodget, the business insider. here is what he said here. he said this is about our current system and philosophy. not sustainable. why...
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federal income tax, federal payroll tax, state income tax, state sales tax, state property tax, gasoline tax added up to well over 50% of what they earned. your plan is to take the tax rate on successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. the national federation of independent businesses has said that will cost 700,000 jobs. i don't want to cost jobs. my priority is jobs. so what i do is i bring down the tax rates, lower deductions and exemptions, the same idea behind bowles-simpson, by the way. lower the exemptions to create more jobs because there's nothing better for getting us to a balanced budget than having more people working, earning more money, paying more taxes. that's by far the most effective and efficient way to get this budget balanced. >> jim, you may want to move on to another topic, but i would just say this to the american people. if you believe that we can cut taxes by $5 trillion and add $2 trillion in additional spending that the military is not asking for, $7 trillion, just to give you a sense over ten years, that's more than our entire defense budget, and you think
federal income tax, federal payroll tax, state income tax, state sales tax, state property tax, gasoline tax added up to well over 50% of what they earned. your plan is to take the tax rate on successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. the national federation of independent businesses has said that will cost 700,000 jobs. i don't want to cost jobs. my priority is jobs. so what i do is i bring down the tax rates, lower deductions and exemptions, the same idea behind bowles-simpson, by the way....
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that's a quote for his remarks about the 47% who don't pay income tax. listen. >> stepping away from anything you said in your video, are you not backing away from it? do you worry you offended this 47% who you mentioned? >> well, you know, it is not elegantly stated. let me put it that way. speaking off the cuff in response to a question and i was -- thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions. now and then you are going to say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i said something that's just completely wrong. i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about 100%. >> so that first club was with what governor romney said and what was a hastily called press conference after the tape was released. that second clip was what we heard yesterday from governor romney. now saying completely wrong. let's get to georgia congress n congressman -- nice to sigh, sir. we are having technical difficulties. we will get to him as soon as we can fix those. let me ask you a question, john. spent a lot of time on the campaign
that's a quote for his remarks about the 47% who don't pay income tax. listen. >> stepping away from anything you said in your video, are you not backing away from it? do you worry you offended this 47% who you mentioned? >> well, you know, it is not elegantly stated. let me put it that way. speaking off the cuff in response to a question and i was -- thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions. now and then you are going to say something that doesn't come out right. in...
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he locked himself into some bad positions that he took during the republican primary, tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas, refusing to ask the wealthiest for a dime to reduce the deficit and those give us big openings to talk about on the campaign trail in key states in the weeks ahead. >> vice president biden, meantime, said his boss did a good job drawing a bright line between his policies and mitt romney's. >> i think the president did a wonderful job in making it clear just how stark that choice is. >> keeping them honest, that is precisely where the pundits, even those who support president obama, say he dropped the ball and when we asked our viewers whether mr. obama did better or worse than expected, 61%, nearly two in three, said he did worse. as for why the president himself suppliedn answer today. twice today out on the stump using nearly identical wording each time. listen. >> when i got out on the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. but i know it couldn't have been mitt romney. because the real mitt romney's been running arou
he locked himself into some bad positions that he took during the republican primary, tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas, refusing to ask the wealthiest for a dime to reduce the deficit and those give us big openings to talk about on the campaign trail in key states in the weeks ahead. >> vice president biden, meantime, said his boss did a good job drawing a bright line between his policies and mitt romney's. >> i think the president did a wonderful job in making it...
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vo: why won't romney level with us about his tax plan, which gives the wealthy huge new tax breaks? because according to experts, he'd have to raise taxes on the middle class - or increase the deficit to pay for it. if we can't trust him here... how could we ever trust him here? and the candidate's speech is in pieces all over the district. the writer's desktop and the coordinator's phone are working on a joke with local color. the secure cloud just received a revised intro from the strategist's tablet. and while i make my way into the venue, the candidate will be rehearsing off of his phone. [ candidate ] and thanks to every young face i see out there. [ woman ] his phone is one of his biggest supporters. [ female announcer ] with cisco at the center... working together has never worked so well. >>> joining us, the democratic strategist hilary rosen and republican strategist john feri. seeing a softer side of mitt romney, telling personal stories we haven't heard him do in the past. let me play a little clip. >> so i put my hand on his shoulder and i reached over and i said, billy,
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the stimulus was one-third tax cuts, big payroll tax cuts. plenty of tax cuts. >> very true. >> and for small business tax cuts, too. >> export boom, exports on a monthly basis have risen 50% from their low in march of 2009. the difference is that we have an economy in which rising demand doesn't necessarily translate into more jobs instantly because we're so good at being productive. we use machinery and software computers. the other big difference between now and the '40s and '40 50s the rest of the world had basically destroyed the rest of its capacity in world war ii so we made everything we wanted, cars, t-shirts, socks, televisions, electronics. we made that all here in the u.s., were consumed it. we exported it because nobody else was doing it. we are not going back to a world in which we will have a monopoly on industrial production. in fact, it's the opposite. everybody else now hats hardware to make all the stuff that we did, so it is much more of a challenge to just say, you know, we're going to do these sort of three things that w
the stimulus was one-third tax cuts, big payroll tax cuts. plenty of tax cuts. >> very true. >> and for small business tax cuts, too. >> export boom, exports on a monthly basis have risen 50% from their low in march of 2009. the difference is that we have an economy in which rising demand doesn't necessarily translate into more jobs instantly because we're so good at being productive. we use machinery and software computers. the other big difference between now and the '40s...
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how in lord's name can they justify raising their taxes with these tax cuts? >> a tweet from mitt romney says this, agreed with @joe biden, the middle class has been buried last four years which is why we need a change in november. let's bring in chief political analyst gloria borger. channel in vice president joe biden right now. what was he trying to say obviously didn't come across as he clearly would like. >> well, what he was clearly trying to say and the obama campaign was quick to point this out is that what he was trying to say is that the middle class was buried urntd george w. bush and that's what started the problems for the middle class and that the obama administration has started to pull it out by its boot straps. and so the obama campaign just in case we didn't get that has a statement that says that the romney campaign is taking this entirely out of context. it's obviously in looking at the full transcript that joe biden was talking about the fact that the middle class was buried under failed bush policies. and of course they say romney/ryan wo
how in lord's name can they justify raising their taxes with these tax cuts? >> a tweet from mitt romney says this, agreed with @joe biden, the middle class has been buried last four years which is why we need a change in november. let's bring in chief political analyst gloria borger. channel in vice president joe biden right now. what was he trying to say obviously didn't come across as he clearly would like. >> well, what he was clearly trying to say and the obama campaign was...
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the earned income tax credit. i doubled the earned income tax credit. it was signed under the tax credit. reagan started it. we started it with a strong support of republicans in congress. president bush dealt with that, then president obama increased the earned income tax credit for families with more than three children. this is a rejection of basically more than three decades of bipartisan policy to support working families. it's not a bunch of free loaders. there's only 4% of the total population who don't pay federal income tax and don't work and may not be looking for work. we now have the numbers on this, so, i think that most important thing for him is to find a way to relate to more people in these debates and speak to more of them. this is not the republican primary anymore. >> is he principled, do you think? mitt romney? >> that's not the issue, to me. i think he will -- i think he's principled in the sense that he will keep e commitments that he has made. almost all people when they run for president m
the earned income tax credit. i doubled the earned income tax credit. it was signed under the tax credit. reagan started it. we started it with a strong support of republicans in congress. president bush dealt with that, then president obama increased the earned income tax credit for families with more than three children. this is a rejection of basically more than three decades of bipartisan policy to support working families. it's not a bunch of free loaders. there's only 4% of the total...
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one where he will not extend the bush tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. so the fiscal cliff is going to be folded in some way into renegotiating the tax cuts and how they get extended. i think he'll say it's a no-go, i'm not going to extend the bush tax cuts, so either we can negotiate it now and these few remaining weeks before christmas, or we have see the government shut down. i think therwill be a little chicken game playing at the end of the year. what most people in washington likely think will happen is they'll negotiate some way to say here's a broad framework for what both sides want. let's work it out next year. >> sheila behr, i think americans are excited about the future. i'm glad people are feeling a little bit better about it, we all are. what has to happen so that a year if now we're not talking about the 9% versus the 1% and that there is some sense that banks are finally helping america move forward. >> it is your influence policies that jam the lens. the person they can get by lending into a still uncertain economy has. they can take th
one where he will not extend the bush tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. so the fiscal cliff is going to be folded in some way into renegotiating the tax cuts and how they get extended. i think he'll say it's a no-go, i'm not going to extend the bush tax cuts, so either we can negotiate it now and these few remaining weeks before christmas, or we have see the government shut down. i think therwill be a little chicken game playing at the end of the year. what most people in washington likely...
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>>> you like taxes? i've got taxes for you. christine romans is here to talk about the very serious issue of the fiscal cliff and what it means for your bottom line. literally your bottom line. plug for your show. >> the bottom line is you're going to pay more in taxes next year either because you'll go off the fiscal cliff or because payroll tax is going to expire. taxes are likely rising next year. >> real numbers for people who make certain amounts of money. >> this is the fiscal cliff only. if you make $20,000 to $40,000, your taxes will go up, $1,231. move out with me, $40,000 to $64,000 a year, a $2,000 tax bill right there. $2,000. $64,000 to $108,000, 3,500 more in taxes you're going to pay. take a look at $108,000 and up, another $14,000 in taxes. you can see the more money you take, the more you're going to pay in taxes if the u.s. goes over the fiscal cliff. what's a fiscal cliff? it's a huge tax increase, huge tax increases and huge spending cuts that hit at beginning of january. the bush tax cuts would go away, the
>>> you like taxes? i've got taxes for you. christine romans is here to talk about the very serious issue of the fiscal cliff and what it means for your bottom line. literally your bottom line. plug for your show. >> the bottom line is you're going to pay more in taxes next year either because you'll go off the fiscal cliff or because payroll tax is going to expire. taxes are likely rising next year. >> real numbers for people who make certain amounts of money. >>...
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tax policy center forecasts erican households will pay on average $3,500 more in tax physician congress let the bush era tax cuts expire for everyone. what effect could that and across the board spending cuts have on the wider economy? a new report from the center for regional analysis at george mason university predicts that some 277,000 federal employees will lose their jobs in the next 12 months. that's 14% of the federal workforce. and 14 of the 17 economists surveyed by cnn money predict fiscal cliff will cause a new recession. interestingly all 17 believe the economy won't plunge off the cliff because they think congress will finally get its act together and do something in the lame duck session following the elections or when the new congress convenes in late january. lame in either case. but by then it could be too late for the economy because companies don't like uncertainty as you know and some say they are holding back on hiring. we can't have an economic recovery without job creation. >> so with the looming economic disaster like the fiscal cliff you would have expected the
tax policy center forecasts erican households will pay on average $3,500 more in tax physician congress let the bush era tax cuts expire for everyone. what effect could that and across the board spending cuts have on the wider economy? a new report from the center for regional analysis at george mason university predicts that some 277,000 federal employees will lose their jobs in the next 12 months. that's 14% of the federal workforce. and 14 of the 17 economists surveyed by cnn money predict...
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one thing or another is that a tax increase or not? it is through the tax system. so, did you lie? he's going to say no, i did not lie. >> you say something, you call him out on it. here's the deal. romney's not going to try to bring it up in the debate. nor will president obama because the moment you do, you have opened the door for your opponent to actually you out. so, responsibility's going to rest on the debate moderator, who is not going to do it, but again, what people are saying is can i get somebody to tell me the truth? you can cross words all you want to, but there are some things called undeniable truth. so no matter how you want to dance around it, some things are very clear. >> there's also such a thing as throwi throwing things against the wall and that is what the obama campaign has been effective at doing and the romney campaign hasn't been. >> the romney campaign, they have been -- i can show you the proof. go to our website. again, you have campaigns -- >> check up on after the fact. >> my point, you said earlier -- i said absolutely. if you have that many eyebal
one thing or another is that a tax increase or not? it is through the tax system. so, did you lie? he's going to say no, i did not lie. >> you say something, you call him out on it. here's the deal. romney's not going to try to bring it up in the debate. nor will president obama because the moment you do, you have opened the door for your opponent to actually you out. so, responsibility's going to rest on the debate moderator, who is not going to do it, but again, what people are saying...
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is going to increase taxes across the board of the biggest tax increase in history on january 1st. and mitt romney understands that you have to have small business to grow these jobs. and that's the way we're going to invest in small businesses. take the job-killing obamacare regulations that will crush small businesses, but then give -- replace it with good policies that allow businesses to buy health insurance with what they need, buy it across state lines, have preexisting conditions covered. but the kind of policies that they won't be bankrupt and fined. and 20 million people are expected by this -- by the administration's own calculations, 20 million people -- i guess it was cbo said it would lose their coverage under obama care and that's not going to work for my state of virginia. >> i have to say, i hope he has your ability to go without taking a breath and have things that make sense. jim, let me ask, barbara talked about mitt romney wants to talk about his tax plan. i'm sure that the president wants to talk about mitt romney's tax plan too. specifically that promise to cu
is going to increase taxes across the board of the biggest tax increase in history on january 1st. and mitt romney understands that you have to have small business to grow these jobs. and that's the way we're going to invest in small businesses. take the job-killing obamacare regulations that will crush small businesses, but then give -- replace it with good policies that allow businesses to buy health insurance with what they need, buy it across state lines, have preexisting conditions...
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to avert the fiscal cliff, in which everything from payroll taxes to full tax rates will go up. >>> and now our fourth story outfront. under attack by hackers. this was pretty incredible because the white house today confirmed that its military office was the target of a cyber attack with a suspected attacker, china. this is the office responsible for the united states of america's nuclear warplane. now, cnn has learned this was an unclassified network which was hit. officials say they dealt with the threat, but these attacks are relentless and the pentagon encounters thousands of them a day. how does washington keep up with this threat? "outfront" tonight, retired colonel cedric leighton. colonel, great to see you. the white house is saying we dealt with this, still, this is the white house. this is an office which is responsible for the united states of america's nuclear war plans how. how serious was this? >> it's great to see you, too, but this is too close for comfort when it comes to hacking attacks, especially when it comes to protecting the nuclear codes and anything else th
to avert the fiscal cliff, in which everything from payroll taxes to full tax rates will go up. >>> and now our fourth story outfront. under attack by hackers. this was pretty incredible because the white house today confirmed that its military office was the target of a cyber attack with a suspected attacker, china. this is the office responsible for the united states of america's nuclear warplane. now, cnn has learned this was an unclassified network which was hit. officials say they...
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it's tax on capital gains. there are lots of people who believe it should be taxed as ordinary income. would you support moving the carried interest so it's taxed as ordinary income? as interest rule. >> it came about always sweat equity. if a restaurant your said i want to open a restaurant. want you to invest $50,000. you take 80% of the profits and i'm take 20%. that's what carried interest is. it's what the venture capital firms do and that's how people are compensated. do. it gets people to look at it, the tax code should be looked at from farm subsidies to carried interest and corporate loopholes because we need to raise more revenue. >> what do you think of this man as a leader? he hired you, i assume. >> he gave me my first job back at bain and company before bain capital was started. he's an incredible family man. he's got a good sense of humor. it sometimes gets him in trouble but he's got a great sense of humor, and he has a great sense of humor. i'm heartened by the fact that we have two fantastic c
it's tax on capital gains. there are lots of people who believe it should be taxed as ordinary income. would you support moving the carried interest so it's taxed as ordinary income? as interest rule. >> it came about always sweat equity. if a restaurant your said i want to open a restaurant. want you to invest $50,000. you take 80% of the profits and i'm take 20%. that's what carried interest is. it's what the venture capital firms do and that's how people are compensated. do. it gets...
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he wants to cut taxes, reduce regulations, and streamline government. and looking at places from switzerland to singapore to dubai, you can see that being friendly to businesses and to tourists can produce an economic bonanza. in some areas like infrastructure, most agree that the government must act and the need is urgent. if you defer maintenance on your house, the house deteriorates and eventually you actually have to pay more. that is what we are doing with our infrastructure. rather than fix it now when borrowing costs are at historic lows, we're passing a much bigger bill to our children. as i mentioned earlier, the world economic forum ranks us 25th in the world in infrastructure, down from 5th only a decade ago. education may be more complex. just spending money isn't the answer, but the problem is clear. in the 1970s america led the world in the number of college graduates. as of 2009, we're 14th among rich countries. and the jobs of the -- take federal funding for research and development, which is at half the share of gdp that it was in 1960
he wants to cut taxes, reduce regulations, and streamline government. and looking at places from switzerland to singapore to dubai, you can see that being friendly to businesses and to tourists can produce an economic bonanza. in some areas like infrastructure, most agree that the government must act and the need is urgent. if you defer maintenance on your house, the house deteriorates and eventually you actually have to pay more. that is what we are doing with our infrastructure. rather than...
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cut, there will not be tax cuts, big tax cuts? >> it would reduce the rate and in all likelihood you would maintain the same amount of revenue and, of course, revenue grows and people have more confidence in the economy. they have more confidence in fairness and equity and that the rules are rules they can live with. >> governor o'malley, let me pick your brain as head of the democratic governors association. there are 11 governorships up. right now four of the eight that you're defending look like they could go to republicans. what's wrong here at the state level because the republicans look like they're maintaining and could pick up some of the governorships currently held by democrats. what's going on? >> well, actually we're being greatly outspent in virtually every state, and we are defending 11 states. some of them not in the friendliest of terrains for president obama, but as we saw last year in kentucky, a state that where the president did not prevail, our candidate was all about jobs, all about bringing people together t
cut, there will not be tax cuts, big tax cuts? >> it would reduce the rate and in all likelihood you would maintain the same amount of revenue and, of course, revenue grows and people have more confidence in the economy. they have more confidence in fairness and equity and that the rules are rules they can live with. >> governor o'malley, let me pick your brain as head of the democratic governors association. there are 11 governorships up. right now four of the eight that you're...
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now, as for those specifics on taxes, i go back to the last time we successfully had major tax reform which was in 1986 with ronald reagan as president. he didn't come out with all the specifics. he worked with the congress behind the scenes, and they achieved meaningful tax reform because they kept those discussions private, they didn't draw public lines in the sand and therefore, they emerged successful. successful pattern to follow, ronald reagan's. on the other hand, you had the debt limit talks in 2011 where president obama in the middle of talks never, until this day, has gotten specific. we don't know if he offered to raise the medicare retirement age. we don't know how much he said he would cut medicare and enact entitlement reform. so he did the opposite. he went into a serious negotiation not as a candidate but as the president and never got specific. it's one of the reasons we never got a big debt limit deal. so i think mitt romney actually is following the reagan pattern. the question is who when it comes to real negotiation with congress will follow through and get it don
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the tax base works. and you can -- >> but i have to -- >> no. >> but you haven't given me the math. i don't have the -- it would ta me too long to go through all the math. >> too long to go through the math, he says. but ryan did go on to hint, didn't promise, but he hinted that a romney administration would look at tax loopholes enjoyed by the wealthy. here's that. >> when you close a tax write-off or tax shelter for a higher income person, more of their income is subject to taxation so you can lower tax rates. that's where we begin. where we go is by denying those deductions and loopholes to higher income people, which allows us to lower tax rates for everybody across the board and still afford important preferences for the middle class taxpayers. >> there you have paul ryan on taxes. we expect some of the comments to pop up come wednesday night during the debate in denver, the very first presidential debate here of this election season. and i want to go to chief white house correspondent jessica yelli
the tax base works. and you can -- >> but i have to -- >> no. >> but you haven't given me the math. i don't have the -- it would ta me too long to go through all the math. >> too long to go through the math, he says. but ryan did go on to hint, didn't promise, but he hinted that a romney administration would look at tax loopholes enjoyed by the wealthy. here's that. >> when you close a tax write-off or tax shelter for a higher income person, more of their income is...
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it's tax on capital gains. there are lots of people who believe it should be taxed as ordinary income. would you support moving the carried interest so it's taxed as interest rule. >> it came about always sweat equity. if someone came to you and said i want to open a restaurant. you take 80% of the profits and i'm take 20%. that's what care rid interest is. it's what the venture capital firms do and that's how people do. it incents people to look at it. all the way to farm countries to carried interest because we need to raise more revenue. >> what do you think of this man as a leader? he hired you, i assume. >> he gave me my first job back at bane company. he's an incredible family man. he's got a good sense of humor. it sometimes gets him in trouble but he geeset great sense of humor, and he's have very good sense ofhumor. i'm heartened by the fact that we have two fantastic candidates. i worked with president obama as well. they boenlt have a high degree of education and both knowledgebling. i think we're lu
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president, who never mentioned romney's comments on the 47% of americans who don't pay federal income taxes. >> 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. >> reporter: with an obama campaign ad still repeating those remarks, romney tried to put an end to the controversy once and for all on fox. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds, if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you are going to say something that doesn't come out right. in this case, i said something that's just completely wrong. >> reporter: democrats maintain that tone deafness extends from main street to sesame street. so obama aides sent a protester in a big bird outfit to romney's event in virginia to mock his call to end funding for pbs. romney will spend part of his weekend in florida, back in debate prep. the other part hitting the president once again on the economy. as one senior romney adviser put it, weak job growth should not be the new normal. jim acosta, cnn, st. petersburg, florida. >>> speaking of mitt romney, taking the stage in florida shortly for a ra
president, who never mentioned romney's comments on the 47% of americans who don't pay federal income taxes. >> 47% of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. >> reporter: with an obama campaign ad still repeating those remarks, romney tried to put an end to the controversy once and for all on fox. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds, if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you are going to say something that doesn't...
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they want the irs to tax them. plus, hear from the man planning a death-defying recordsetting jump from the edge of space. >>> a campus police officer shot and killed this 18-year-old freshman at the university of south alabama yesterday. school officials say gilbert collar rushed the officer several times and kept threatening him. he reportedly was make ed and abbinging eradically. his friends remembered a different student. >> you could ask anyone that knew him. he was a great, loving guy. always made people smile. you know, is not the kind of guy that people move him and said he would do something like this. >> i want to bring in cnn legal contributor paul cowen joining us from new york. paul, good morning. >> good morning, randi. >> the victim in this case is 18 years old. he was a college freshman. considering the circumstances, he was apparently, reportedly, make ed. wouldn't they have been able to see that he wasn't armed? i mean, why do you think it led to something like this? >> you know, randi, the early
they want the irs to tax them. plus, hear from the man planning a death-defying recordsetting jump from the edge of space. >>> a campus police officer shot and killed this 18-year-old freshman at the university of south alabama yesterday. school officials say gilbert collar rushed the officer several times and kept threatening him. he reportedly was make ed and abbinging eradically. his friends remembered a different student. >> you could ask anyone that knew him. he was a great,...
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we get terrible marks on taxes and regulation. on the burden of government regulation the united states ranks 76th, with a score of 3.3 on a total scale of from zero to seven, on the extent and effect of taxation you can the united states ranks 69th out of 144 countries on total tax rate, percentage of profit, the united states came in 103rd out of 144. now the truth is that overall, the u.s. economy remains highly competitive the world economic forums report ranks the u.s. overall as the seventh most competitive in the world. that's why a few months ago, "the economist" magazine predicted an american renaissance. where we have slipped badly of late is in our investments, in people, science and infrastructure. so, president obama's message is urgent and relevant. but why do we have to choose between these two views? we need tax and regulatory reform to make ourselves competitive. america has to make itself attractive for investors, consumers and tourists alike but also should make the crucial investments we need for a 21st century
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you specifically said you would cut this tax, this tax, this tax. >> a lot of promises. >> that add up to 5 trillion. how will you pay for that? i think that will linger a bit. >> if somebody asks him specifically what loop holes and deductions are you proposing to do away with? the president hasn't asked that question. no one has asked him that question. >> chris wallace has, actually. paul ryan. >> the bigger issue is that you can take every single deduction there is, abolish them all and that adds up to $5 trillion. >> no, i don't agree with you on that. the tax policy center you're referring to is incomplete and they've revised it since then. >> i'm not just referring to that analysis. >> governor romney did talk about how he would eliminate some deductions. he would have a bucket that he would fill up. >> what was he saying was in that bucket? let's make up a number. here is what the number is. >> he said it could be $50,000, if you capped deductions at $50,000, you're not even in the ballpark of $5 trillion. >> it was not a specific what are the actual loop holes. i think that wa
you specifically said you would cut this tax, this tax, this tax. >> a lot of promises. >> that add up to 5 trillion. how will you pay for that? i think that will linger a bit. >> if somebody asks him specifically what loop holes and deductions are you proposing to do away with? the president hasn't asked that question. no one has asked him that question. >> chris wallace has, actually. paul ryan. >> the bigger issue is that you can take every single deduction...
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how in lord's name can they justify raising taxes with these tax cuts? >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. that means we need to stop digging by electing mitt romney the next president of the united states. of course the middle class has been buried. they're being buried by regulations. they're being buried by taxes. they're being buried by borrowing. they're being buried by the obama administration's economic failures. >> reporter: romney campaign put together a conference call to draw attention, more focus to the comments by the vice president. the obama campaign pushed back saying this was just another act of desperation and what the vice president was talking about were -- were situations or a climate that was put in place by the failed policies of the former administration. i'll tell you what, at the very next event during his remarkings, the vice president did touch on the same subject but left out the word buried. soledad? >> walk us through the logistics of toni
how in lord's name can they justify raising taxes with these tax cuts? >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. that means we need to stop digging by electing mitt romney the next president of the united states. of course the middle class has been buried. they're being buried by regulations. they're being buried by taxes. they're being buried by borrowing. they're being buried by the obama administration's...